{"id":214,"date":"2006-06-02T16:31:46","date_gmt":"2006-06-02T15:31:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.leapfrog.nl\/archives\/2006\/06\/02\/rough-notes-for-tom-armitage-what-social-software-can-learn-from-homer-dickens-and-marvel-comics\/"},"modified":"2008-07-22T21:40:54","modified_gmt":"2008-07-22T19:40:54","slug":"rough-notes-for-tom-armitage-what-social-software-can-learn-from-homer-dickens-and-marvel-comics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/archives\/2006\/06\/02\/rough-notes-for-tom-armitage-what-social-software-can-learn-from-homer-dickens-and-marvel-comics\/","title":{"rendered":"Rough notes for Tom Armitage &#8211; What social software can learn from Homer, Dickens, and Marvel Comics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dickens, cliffhanger on every page<\/p>\n<p>Putting data on display = publishing<\/p>\n<p>Blogs are fragmentary<\/p>\n<p>Every single thing you do needs to be dated for context<\/p>\n<p>In hindsight it&#8217;ll show you patterns<\/p>\n<p>Example: Infovore and previous blog actually join<\/p>\n<p>Collect data across boundaries (chronological, digital, physical)<\/p>\n<p>Nostalgia, be fuzzy, looking back at old stories etc.<\/p>\n<p>Analogy of reviews of books with comments on blog &#8211; making it livelier.<\/p>\n<p>If something counts (comments, statistics) make them accessible and public.<\/p>\n<p>Fin. serial narrative.<\/p>\n<p>Next: epic<\/p>\n<p>Homer<\/p>\n<p>How can someone remember these huge stories?<\/p>\n<p>Because they use known structures and formulas, conventions.<\/p>\n<p>You can leave out stuff. Two tellings are never the same.<\/p>\n<p>He doesn&#8217;t believe in single sign-up. Stuff will be different between sites.<\/p>\n<p>Profiles of people should be different  between sites.<\/p>\n<p>Retroactive continuity (retcon)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;deliberately changing previously established facts in fiction&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Crisis on Infinite Earths (Marvel) starting anew<\/p>\n<p>Social software: revising earlier versions.<\/p>\n<p>E.g.: Flickr replace button.<\/p>\n<p>Fiction &#8211; telling lies, no let&#8217;s tell untruths<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Truth: something with no deliberate dishonesty&#8221; &#8212; Andrew Losowsky, <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/lug7c\">http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/lug7c<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Doorbells of Florence (on Fiickr)<\/p>\n<p>Identity<\/p>\n<p>Give people the chance to use something else than their real name. Personas are important. Handle based culture has existed for a long time online.<\/p>\n<p>Expect people to tell untruths.<\/p>\n<p>Kaycee Nicole Swenson hoax\nDying of leukemia, PayPal, blogging, died, but not really, she was an old woman.<\/p>\n<p>No default for truth.<\/p>\n<p>Fictional characters on Friendster. <\/p>\n<p>Vincent Gallo on site &#8211; deleted too but it was really him&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Wikipedia should mix both fiction and truth<\/p>\n<p>Telling the story (final section)<\/p>\n<p>The language you use is important<\/p>\n<p>(Jarhead is a great book.)<\/p>\n<p>You should tell a tale and talk as little as possible in your own voice.<\/p>\n<p>Breedster, art project, insect, eating, shitting and having sex. Sexual disease &#8211; everyone became infertile.<\/p>\n<p>User experience is important.<\/p>\n<p>Good storytelling can&#8217;t save a terrible story.<\/p>\n<p>Conclusion<\/p>\n<p>When you create social software, look to storytelling for inspiration.<\/p>\n<p>Questions<\/p>\n<p>Q We should have a debate about truth and fiction.\nA Internet doesn&#8217;t have a laughter track and it never will. We expect comm. media to be truthful but publishing media to be used for fiction. Internet is both&#8230; Friend that was evicted from WoW because of roleplaying a racist character. There is a risk that the net will get really po-faced.<\/p>\n<p>Q How can we go about determining who&#8217;s really who?\nA Example of phishing (Paypal), lots of people will believe you when you just get the style right. With text it&#8217;s really easy to pretend to be someone else. Real names shouldn&#8217;t be forced to publish their real names.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/reboot.dk\/wiki\/What_social_software_can_learn_from_Homer%2C_Dickens%2C_and_Marvel_Comics\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/reboot.dk\/wiki\/What_social_software_can_learn_from_Homer%2C_Dickens%2C_and_Marvel_Comics\">http:\/\/reboot.dk\/wiki\/What_social_software_can_learn_from_Homer%2C_Dickens%2C_and_Marvel_Comics<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dickens, cliffhanger on every page Putting data on display = publishing Blogs are fragmentary Every single thing you do needs to be dated for context In hindsight it&#8217;ll show you patterns Example: Infovore and previous blog actually join Collect data across boundaries (chronological, digital, physical) Nostalgia, be fuzzy, looking back at old stories etc. Analogy &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/archives\/2006\/06\/02\/rough-notes-for-tom-armitage-what-social-software-can-learn-from-homer-dickens-and-marvel-comics\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Rough notes for Tom Armitage &#8211; What social software can learn from Homer, Dickens, and Marvel Comics<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[625],"tags":[141,15,173,175,94,174],"class_list":["post-214","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-articles","tag-reboot-8","tag-events","tag-fiction","tag-narrative","tag-social-software","tag-truth"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=214"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1002,"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214\/revisions\/1002"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=214"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=214"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leapfrog.nl\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=214"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}